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primarily focusing on chuck hagel and the fact that will come to a vote tomorrow. he would be the first foot soldier, you know, in that position. a vietnam vet, has a great career as a republican from nebraska. what do you think is the main opposition to seeing him get into that seat? he said weak and wobbly performance at his hearing. >> i don't know what the opposition is quite frankly, thomas. maybe susan can help explain it. i think one of the reasonable republicans out there. he's a republican and he has been a republican who democrats have had uneasiness in the past. president obama's appointment and he should have an up or down vote. i think that harry reid should go back and reconsider the whole idea about the filibuster negotiation they had last month. but, i mean, they have asked for five years of financial records from chuck hagel, they were comfortable for one year of financial records from mitt romney and suddenly for a person with few responsibilities they want more records, completely inconsistent. >> as we see from plymoupolitic republicans see the
primarily focusing on chuck hagel and the fact that will come to a vote tomorrow. he would be the first foot soldier, you know, in that position. a vietnam vet, has a great career as a republican from nebraska. what do you think is the main opposition to seeing him get into that seat? he said weak and wobbly performance at his hearing. >> i don't know what the opposition is quite frankly, thomas. maybe susan can help explain it. i think one of the reasonable republicans out there. he's a...
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. >> michael: i'mture chuck hagel would like one of those pentagon-brewed beers. let's talk about hagel. he is calling for cuts to the defense budget. republicans have just skewed him with it. and how will he do with that? >> there is some concern in how chuck hagel will work with those on capitol hill. you have heard the chairman of the house armed services committee say he doesn't want chuck hagel to be confirmed. he think president obama needs to put up someone new. but it is likely he will be confirmed in a very hostile, tense environment where he is working in the constraints of the military. >> michael: and you can see it happening. juana summers defense reporter for "politico." thanks for being in "the war room." >> thank you. >> michael: up next, when last we left the meddling koch brothers their scheme to overtake democracy has been foiled. but they were bound to pop up again in the next season. stick around. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current
. >> michael: i'mture chuck hagel would like one of those pentagon-brewed beers. let's talk about hagel. he is calling for cuts to the defense budget. republicans have just skewed him with it. and how will he do with that? >> there is some concern in how chuck hagel will work with those on capitol hill. you have heard the chairman of the house armed services committee say he doesn't want chuck hagel to be confirmed. he think president obama needs to put up someone new. but it is...
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everyone voting today knows that chuck hagel is going to be confirmed. in fact, there are a number of people who have made commitments that they will, in fact, vote for cloture when we return. so this is some kind of grandstanding that goes on. i'm confident he'll get the votes when we return, and he will take his place as secretary of state. but he is going to miss the nato conference next week, and it sends a signal to the rest of the world that maybe he doesn't have the full support of the american government, which is not a good place for our secretary of defense to be in. >> well, the jackals are in the streets tonight. thank you so much, senator claire mccaskill. and peter beinart, thank you for joining us as well. >>> coming up, the frantic rantings of the nra. citizen lapierre has gotten crazier. he says we need to buy guns, to arm up to protect ourselves from the marauding hispanic gangs. >>> remember the line, this one, from "brokeback mountain," i wish i knew how to quit you. well, republicans just can't quit their cartoon version of president
everyone voting today knows that chuck hagel is going to be confirmed. in fact, there are a number of people who have made commitments that they will, in fact, vote for cloture when we return. so this is some kind of grandstanding that goes on. i'm confident he'll get the votes when we return, and he will take his place as secretary of state. but he is going to miss the nato conference next week, and it sends a signal to the rest of the world that maybe he doesn't have the full support of the...
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let's start with the chuck hagel filibuster situation. senator mitch mcconnell said, i think the president is entitled to an up or down. that is simple majority vote on nominations, both to his cabinet and to the executive branch and also to the judiciary, clearly the republicans have somewhat changed their tune on the that. but if we do see, as we're seeing now, a sort of filibuster on nominees is this going to be the new normal now in washington? >> the consistency is not a virtue any longer, but what i'm surprised about with respect to the senate actions here, i serve there had the last 189 years, left two years ago, i served with chuck hagel, he served there 12 years and i'm very surprised that people who served with him in his own caucus, he caucused with them every week, they know him as a squad leader and infantry man who was twice wounded, he has two purple hearts by the way. they're suggesting somehow he's unworthy? it's unbelievable to me, every time you think this is sort of the nth degree of gridlock, i hope you dpind enough r
let's start with the chuck hagel filibuster situation. senator mitch mcconnell said, i think the president is entitled to an up or down. that is simple majority vote on nominations, both to his cabinet and to the executive branch and also to the judiciary, clearly the republicans have somewhat changed their tune on the that. but if we do see, as we're seeing now, a sort of filibuster on nominees is this going to be the new normal now in washington? >> the consistency is not a virtue any...
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senate republicans have successfully blocked a vote on chuck hagel. republicans have thrown out so many different reasons for this it's hard to know why they're opposing the man becoming secretary of defense. it's hard to keep up with all their arguments. it's because hagel hasn't accounted for every penny he's made and every single word of every single speech he's ever given. it's because of what he said about israel and iran, maybe, but it's also because of the white house's response to benghazi, perhaps, something obviously, but that was nothing to do with chuck hagel who wasn't in the government at that time. well, today republican threats to take the unprecedented step of blocking a presidential cabinet appointment came to fruition, if you will. democrats moved forward with a procedural vote to end debate and pave the way for a final up and down vote. then it failed. it failed to get the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster. so -- and this just happened. where does hagel's nomination go from here and what are the republicans really up to here
senate republicans have successfully blocked a vote on chuck hagel. republicans have thrown out so many different reasons for this it's hard to know why they're opposing the man becoming secretary of defense. it's hard to keep up with all their arguments. it's because hagel hasn't accounted for every penny he's made and every single word of every single speech he's ever given. it's because of what he said about israel and iran, maybe, but it's also because of the white house's response to...
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at times chuck hagel seemed timid, sensitive and -- >> you're in the house. >> you don't want that. >> you're in the house. some republican senators considering whether to filibuster or not. do you think that would be wise? >> i'm not certain if it will be wise or not. some concerns with his positions with israel and whether or not that will carry water at the end of the day but, you again, it will be a decision that the senate is going to make and really not in the house. >> george, i mean i think obviously he could have done better but to me there's a couple of things about that. first, it would be unfortunate this first time we'd have an enlisted person -- someone an enlisted man, average military guy to run the department of defense that will make decisions on -- first time that will ever happen in our history is important for many soldiers who feel disconnected from the process because of somebody's never really understood that. you watch the hearing. i watched most of the hearing which you come away with is nobody is willing to ask questions in any of these to actually elicit in
at times chuck hagel seemed timid, sensitive and -- >> you're in the house. >> you don't want that. >> you're in the house. some republican senators considering whether to filibuster or not. do you think that would be wise? >> i'm not certain if it will be wise or not. some concerns with his positions with israel and whether or not that will carry water at the end of the day but, you again, it will be a decision that the senate is going to make and really not in the...
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republicans have filibustered a final vote on chuck hagel, president obama's pick to head the defense department. just four republicans join 54 democrats to support a vote on the nomination. now, you mugs know this is the first time in american history that a defense secretary nominee has been filibustered. forced to clear a 60 vote threshold. the president himself responded just minutes ago. >> chuck hagel, who, by the way, was a member of the republican caucus, a colleague of all of these folks who the republican leader mitch mcconnell and others consistently praised when he was still in the senate, has two purple stars -- two purple hearts, was an extraordinary soldier, was the head of the u.s.o., served on the senate floor relations committee. he is imminently qualified to be secretary of defense. and the notion that we would see an unprecedented filibuster, just about unprecedented. we've never had a secretary of defense filibustered before. there's nothing in the constitution that says that somebody should get 60 votes. the republican minority in the senate seemed to think that
republicans have filibustered a final vote on chuck hagel, president obama's pick to head the defense department. just four republicans join 54 democrats to support a vote on the nomination. now, you mugs know this is the first time in american history that a defense secretary nominee has been filibustered. forced to clear a 60 vote threshold. the president himself responded just minutes ago. >> chuck hagel, who, by the way, was a member of the republican caucus, a colleague of all of...
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chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not some tax, it is knowledge, elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as illegitimate the elected government. we know that the rolutn of 2009 was part byhe ft tha it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he said, he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a bad during issue. he says, yes, i support the administration's policy of containment. he then gets a note that says, i have been told that i made a mistake. of course i am not in support of that. a policy of this administration on containment is that it does t have a policy of containment. at whi poi democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy of containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby? >> he was in the position where he had to dodge a little bit. let's go back to the exchange with senator mccain on the surge. the issue was never the surge when you ta
chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not some tax, it is knowledge, elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as illegitimate the elected government. we know that the rolutn of 2009 was part byhe ft tha it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he said, he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a bad during issue. he says,...
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to be honest i have a lot more confidence in chuck hagel than the president when it comes to defense. there is so much instability in the world. when you look at egypt and libya and syria and iran, rapidly moving toward a nuclear bomb, to some sense to say we're in this post war era where things are rosie i think is wrong. we always need to be prepared. >> the point is what we need in terms of what we need in terms of how we deal with the changing threats is different. maybe what we don't need is thousands of troops but we need a smaller complement of troops and we need to have a strategy that also includes, you know, civilian as well as a state department as well as intelligence forces working together in a very different way than we've seen before to confront these new challenges. >> karen finney, john brayvender, we are out of time. thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> while we keep our eye on that ceremony at the pentagon, let's check the news feed this morning. startling new video from that fatal hot air balloon crash in egypt yesterday. a witness captured th
to be honest i have a lot more confidence in chuck hagel than the president when it comes to defense. there is so much instability in the world. when you look at egypt and libya and syria and iran, rapidly moving toward a nuclear bomb, to some sense to say we're in this post war era where things are rosie i think is wrong. we always need to be prepared. >> the point is what we need in terms of what we need in terms of how we deal with the changing threats is different. maybe what we don't...
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chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue it is chuck hagel. his prproblem is not synta it is elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as a legitimate elected government. we know that the revolutution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigd election, at an illegitimate government. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of contaient. it was not a bad during issue. he said, yes i support the administration's policy on containment. he then received a note and says i he been told i made a mistake. of course, i am not in support of that.t. the policy of this administration on containining is that it does not have a policy. at which point, democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy of containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby. clueless? >> he was in a position where he had to dodge a little bit. let'go back to the exchange with senator mccain on the surge.e. the issue was never the surge when you talk about i
chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue it is chuck hagel. his prproblem is not synta it is elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as a legitimate elected government. we know that the revolutution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigd election, at an illegitimate government. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of contaient. it was not a bad during issue. he said, yes i...
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does he identify with chuck hagel? both have seen the bitter pill they've had to swallow from their own party. >> look, relationships matter a lot in the senate. this is a situation where a republican has really frayed relations with many members in his own party because of the stances he took in iraq and on other issues. remember, tamron, a lot of these republican senators who voted against him didn't serve with chuck hagel. it's a very new, younger republican conference. they really only know him from the anti-iraq positions that he took, as well as some of the other thing he's did, such as endorsing deb fisher's opponent. >> to that point, roger, the senator was on msnbc earlier today. here what's he said. it has nothing to do with the personal issues laid out by senator mccain. let me play it. >> this doesn't have anything to do with a grudge. this has something to do with picking the best person to be the leader of the largest defense organization in the world. he's not the right guy for dod. he's well to the left
does he identify with chuck hagel? both have seen the bitter pill they've had to swallow from their own party. >> look, relationships matter a lot in the senate. this is a situation where a republican has really frayed relations with many members in his own party because of the stances he took in iraq and on other issues. remember, tamron, a lot of these republican senators who voted against him didn't serve with chuck hagel. it's a very new, younger republican conference. they really...
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he says chuck hagel is too darn disagreeable. so says john mccain. quote, in a heated dispute over immigration law overhaul, mccain screamed f you at john cornyn who had been raising concerns about the legislation. this is chicken -- stuff, mccain snapped at cornyn. are you calling me stupid chuck grassley once said? no, replied senator mccain. i'm calling you an -- jerk. at a gop meeting last fall, mccain erupted out of the blue at the respected budget chairman pete domenici, quote, only an -- would put together a budget like this. a speech about all his years in the senate through all the heated debates no one had ever called him that. another man might have taken a moment to check his temper, but mccain went on, i wouldn't call you that unless you really were that. >> you can disagree, but if you're disagreeable, then people don't forget that. >> ah, the arbiter of disagreeable. it is rich to hear that as the supposed criticism of chuck hagel coming from john mccain. but honestly, it's not just john mccain's personal hypocrisy here. this is a wash
he says chuck hagel is too darn disagreeable. so says john mccain. quote, in a heated dispute over immigration law overhaul, mccain screamed f you at john cornyn who had been raising concerns about the legislation. this is chicken -- stuff, mccain snapped at cornyn. are you calling me stupid chuck grassley once said? no, replied senator mccain. i'm calling you an -- jerk. at a gop meeting last fall, mccain erupted out of the blue at the respected budget chairman pete domenici, quote, only an --...
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chuck hagel watching this. the president is not going to get forced to pull back on this. >> he got re-elected and he wants his guy. the guy he wants is someone he's sympa sympatico with. he'll have to deal with these republicans who have this personal vendetta against him. he does carry this baggage. and i think these performance issues have not helped. his performance in his confirmation hearing did not make people inside the white house more confident about him. but, again, second term presidents, their level of confidence, who they want for the reasons they want them carry the day. >> john mccain, we saw all sides of him this week. there was the john mccain who told ted cruz, hey, you've gone too far. then there was the john mccain who went and decided to filibuster his former friend. and then there was the john mccain who was basically totally honest about why he's really -- he didn't say why he was opposing him, but explained why so many republican senators -- >> and it undercuts the benghazi arguments. i
chuck hagel watching this. the president is not going to get forced to pull back on this. >> he got re-elected and he wants his guy. the guy he wants is someone he's sympa sympatico with. he'll have to deal with these republicans who have this personal vendetta against him. he does carry this baggage. and i think these performance issues have not helped. his performance in his confirmation hearing did not make people inside the white house more confident about him. but, again, second term...
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we've talked about john mccain and chuck hagel. once very close friends. mccain during the chuck hagel confirmation hearing was one of the most poignant, maybe ted cruise was the most poignant, but one of the most pointed critics of haling. mccain not putting his name to that letter. it's -- this seems like a foregone conclusion here in that this is much more for the public record and for history's sake why this letter was sent. >> and one more thing. before we leave, hagel, is this whole stir yesterday where. >> did you take money from the friends of hamas? >> it's lake-effect like this was a star claim we are bsh it got some legs, and it was all about theater. when you had all those senators, you know, people like cruise questioning him, talking about the friends of hamas, i mean, they were out for blood when it came to hagel and how to make a design in some ways. >> without even checking factual basis for their questions. >> no. >> you can ask anything and create a soundbyte, and people pick it up in social media, and it's off and running. >> there was
we've talked about john mccain and chuck hagel. once very close friends. mccain during the chuck hagel confirmation hearing was one of the most poignant, maybe ted cruise was the most poignant, but one of the most pointed critics of haling. mccain not putting his name to that letter. it's -- this seems like a foregone conclusion here in that this is much more for the public record and for history's sake why this letter was sent. >> and one more thing. before we leave, hagel, is this whole...
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the only person they can whack right now is chuck hagel. i mean, chuck hagel is a perfectly acceptable defense secretary. and privately, most republicans would say the same thing. but for a whole host of reasons, the only person that the republican right can go after right now is hagel, and they're going to do it. >> yeah. >> and i think it's possible that they won't get the 60 votes, that the democrats won't get the 60 votes to shut off debate to invoke cloture on friday. and it will go another week. it's possible. >> this will be the 113th just like the 112th. starting out with a bang. neera tanden, howard fineman, great to have you with us tonight. share your thoughts on twitter at ed show and on facebook. we always want to know what you think. >>> marco rubio had major problems with things coming into his mouth. tonight how rubio's biggest problem really was the stuff that was coming out of his mouth. we'll be right back. first kid you ready? [ female announcer ] second kid by their second kid, every mom is an expert and more likely to
the only person they can whack right now is chuck hagel. i mean, chuck hagel is a perfectly acceptable defense secretary. and privately, most republicans would say the same thing. but for a whole host of reasons, the only person that the republican right can go after right now is hagel, and they're going to do it. >> yeah. >> and i think it's possible that they won't get the 60 votes, that the democrats won't get the 60 votes to shut off debate to invoke cloture on friday. and it...
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we have a live report from capitol hill and we could see fireworks yet again surrounding chuck hagel. >>> plus, police make an arrest in the murder of the chicago teenager who performed at the inauguration. this arrest happening just before her parents are set to attend the state of the union as guests of the first lady. behold water so blue it merges with the sky above. behold natural beauty above the sea, and far below. behold smiles so wide they stretch across the face of an entire nation. behold...the islands of the bahamas. with command strips from 3m. designed to stick and eliminate odors anywhere. like this overflowing trashcan. to test it, we brought in the scott family. so what do you smell? beach house and you're looking out over the ocean. some place like, uh, hawaii in like a flower field. take your blindfolds off. aw man! [ screams ] [ laughs ] that smells good. i wouldn't even just put it in the trash, i'd put it in every room. stick it to eliminate odors anywhere. new febreze stick & refresh. breathe happy. there's a lot i had to do... watch my diet. stay active. start
we have a live report from capitol hill and we could see fireworks yet again surrounding chuck hagel. >>> plus, police make an arrest in the murder of the chicago teenager who performed at the inauguration. this arrest happening just before her parents are set to attend the state of the union as guests of the first lady. behold water so blue it merges with the sky above. behold natural beauty above the sea, and far below. behold smiles so wide they stretch across the face of an entire...
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that's chuck hagel's first line of business. that's the first thing he'll have to do when he wakes up in the morning deal with sequester. as the troops come back from afghanistan the pentagon budget was going to be decreased already. but sequester cuts are significant on top of that. >> michael: and do you expect hagel, and we all expect him to pare down the defense budget. how do you expect him to do it? here is a guy with a history of calling for reasonable reforms in actuality which is why a lot of republicans opposed him. >> that was a major concern. he had inflammatory quotes brought up when they actually asked him questions about what he's going to be like as defense secretary. but his views on the budget, at one time he called bloated really concerned republicans. they were paying closely to what he had said in the past. chuck hagel is certainly going to have a lot to deal with and a lot on his plate with sequester and budget cuts in general. whether he'll approach them from this perspective that the pentagon budget is bl
that's chuck hagel's first line of business. that's the first thing he'll have to do when he wakes up in the morning deal with sequester. as the troops come back from afghanistan the pentagon budget was going to be decreased already. but sequester cuts are significant on top of that. >> michael: and do you expect hagel, and we all expect him to pare down the defense budget. how do you expect him to do it? here is a guy with a history of calling for reasonable reforms in actuality which is...
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who is the star of the chuck hagel hearing? >> ted cruz, marco rubio. that's the latino right, which statistically is a pretty small percentage of latino voters in general, but the republican party cannot move forward at all without addressing this issue in some fundamental way. >> they're going to be ham strung. let's see what's on tap. tom hashingen is vacating his seat. steve king may end up being his replacement. steve king, who coined -- not coined, but uses, you know, with great impugnty the term anchor baby. saxby chambliss is leaving. john d. rockefeller leaving in west virginia. the leading goper is shelly -- murdock, again, we have this example time and time again the seat is offered up. the arch conservatives get their guy, and then maybe ashley judd or someone like her, some democrat from who, what, where, when, how comes in and ends up winning the seat. >> charlize theron is -- >> from south africa. >> oh, sorry. >> there needs to be a reconciliation here, right? as the party becomes more -- the battle lines are drawn with firmer and firmer
who is the star of the chuck hagel hearing? >> ted cruz, marco rubio. that's the latino right, which statistically is a pretty small percentage of latino voters in general, but the republican party cannot move forward at all without addressing this issue in some fundamental way. >> they're going to be ham strung. let's see what's on tap. tom hashingen is vacating his seat. steve king may end up being his replacement. steve king, who coined -- not coined, but uses, you know, with...
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earlier today there was a cloture vote on chuck hagel. this is essentially what we knew last week is that republicans were going to hold up the eventual askengs of chuck hagel to become defense secretary in case there was anything in his past that could damn him. seven days later apparently there's nothing in his past so they're comfortable moving forward. he's expected to be confirmed probably within the next five minutes. you can even have it in this block if we're so fortunate. >> does that not prove that the whole nonsense around the nomination process on this man was simply invented? it was theatrics. there was no substance. it's the same as the friends of hamas. shall are they? >> reporter: i think it does show that the republican strategy was to try to bloody him as much as possible with the belief if they were able to do it enough he would perhaps withdraw. he was pretty vehement last week he would not withdraw. now with the sequester looking like it's going to go forward, my calculations there's $46 billion in military cuts over
earlier today there was a cloture vote on chuck hagel. this is essentially what we knew last week is that republicans were going to hold up the eventual askengs of chuck hagel to become defense secretary in case there was anything in his past that could damn him. seven days later apparently there's nothing in his past so they're comfortable moving forward. he's expected to be confirmed probably within the next five minutes. you can even have it in this block if we're so fortunate. >> does...
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it would be right for chuck hagel to be able to move in this weekend. not going to happen because republicans successfully filibustered that nomination and he fell one vote short of the 60 votes needed to break the filibuster and get an up-or-down vote. that and a lot of other issues impacting the pentagon in the senate these last couple of weeks. tim mac covers the defense issues on capitol hill for politico joining us in studio this morning. tim, good to see you. >> good morning. >> we have your colleague -- we had your colleague juana summers who covers the same for the house? >> she covers defense for the house. i cover defense for the senate. >> bill: hagel, is harry -- as harry reid said, i want to start by playing a quick clip from harry reid putting this in perspective. >> first time in the history of our country, a secretary of defense has been filibustered successfully. >> a war going on, no secretary of defense. >> we have a defense secretary leon panetta who agreed to stay on until this is all dealt with. would it be helpful if the pentagon
it would be right for chuck hagel to be able to move in this weekend. not going to happen because republicans successfully filibustered that nomination and he fell one vote short of the 60 votes needed to break the filibuster and get an up-or-down vote. that and a lot of other issues impacting the pentagon in the senate these last couple of weeks. tim mac covers the defense issues on capitol hill for politico joining us in studio this morning. tim, good to see you. >> good morning....
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a vote on chuck hagel is really going to be touch and go. they are watching this right along with everyone else. but administration officials really pressing the narrative that this comes as an incredibye difficult time. if he isn't confirmed this week and if it does not come to a full vote for another 12 days, that means hagel will not be able to travel to brussels for that nato summit. this is a critical time for the united states as it prepares to draw down troops from afghanistan. the president announcing during his state of the union address he will draw down 30,000 troops in the next year. they believe it's critical for chuck hagel to be there is he can help to talk to the allies about that transition process. some tense moments for the white house. again, they are calling this unconscionable, pointing to the fact this is first time this has really happened in u.s. history. earlier today the white house released that letter that came from kathy rumler, the legal counsel, giving some answers about what happened during the night of bengh
a vote on chuck hagel is really going to be touch and go. they are watching this right along with everyone else. but administration officials really pressing the narrative that this comes as an incredibye difficult time. if he isn't confirmed this week and if it does not come to a full vote for another 12 days, that means hagel will not be able to travel to brussels for that nato summit. this is a critical time for the united states as it prepares to draw down troops from afghanistan. the...